VABB-KATL

[wijnand]

"Hello fellow pilots, I have flight PO413 on my dutylist, VABB-KATL. It isa not possible due to the distance (> 8000 nm) to do it in one leg, so I decided to find a good refuelling stop. LIRF (Rome) seemed nice. When tried to plan for the second leg (LIRF-KATL; about 4500NM) the fuelplanner decided that my weight was too much, so I had to find another fuelstop!! What happended? I took a ZFW of 491994 LBS, for VABB-LIRF this was close to the limits, and for LIRF-KATL this was just over the limits. So, with a lower cargo-weight I could have saved one landing!! Ofcourse, this is indeed one good way to accumulate flying hours!! One question: If we do a flight which is assigned to us as one leg, but which we ourselves plan fuelstops for, are we expected to deliver the same cargo at the destination as we left our departure with? And: If we do a flight which is assigned by GlobeCargo in a few legs, are we then expected to retain the same cargo all the flight, or are we then permitted to change cargo? In other words: are the legs only there for fuelstops or are we talking more deliveries? Greetings, Wijnand. Oh yeah, my next stop is Lissboa (LIRF-LPPT), from there on it is LPPT-KATL. (Portugal is beatifull in the summer <!--emo&:)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> "

[BarryTheAviator]

"Wijnand, I have run the figures you have given (ZFW 491994) for the route Rome - Atlanta and FSBuild comes up with a distance of 4614 miles. This gives a fuel requirement ( including 45 minute extra + 100 mile diversion) of about 290,000 lbs giving a GTOW of 782,000 lbs. This is over the limits in the fuel planner (which is I think set at a max GTOW of 775,000 lbs) but in reality the GTOW of the 747-200-SF is closer to 830,000 lbs so you would be OK. The fuel planner was (I think) designed for the passenger version which has a lower GTOW limit. The freight loaded at the first departure point should be delivered to the final destination in full. However if it is whisky, cigars or anything else that is tasty a ""shrinkage"" allowance would not be noticed <!--emo&^_^-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> (but don't tell Ralph - mind you a box of Havanas might make him forget to notice <!--emo&;)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> ) As a last point for the route VABB-KATL I would have thought a stopover somewehere in Norway or Iceland would be a bit shorter overall (but not as warm for an overnight stop)."

[pilotbrian0]

"<!--QuoteBegin-wijnand+Aug 15 2005, 05:54 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(wijnand @ Aug 15 2005, 05:54 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If we do a flight which is assigned by GlobeCargo in a few legs, are we then expected to retain the same cargo all the flight, or are we then permitted to change cargo? In other words: are the legs only there for fuelstops or are we talking more deliveries? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I too am curious about that, as obviously some of the stops are very long (a fuel stop doesn't need to have 1:45 as the layover time). I assume this means that this stop is a cargo stop? could we expect different cargo numbers for each leg?"