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"Hi, Back in February Justin announced he just purchased CH controls (yoke + pedals + quadrant). I have been thinking about his post since and I wanted to wait for Father Xmas... too long, I turned to the Easter Bunny instead. Got the stuff from Flightsim in 4 days ! What an improvement! now I understand why persons like Lee take the time to build their own cockpit. The only problems are: - I have to learn to fly again. The equipment is so precise that one really needs to be on the controls - I am not sure about calibration of the Quadrant. questions for Justin (or others), Do you use FSUIPC to calibrate the throttles? in your February post you talk about a help file you found on the web, could you please guide me to it? I notice that my changes to the FS controls set up do not all stay permanent... and FS randomly turns them back to defaults, is there a way to prevent this? This equipment is really great are other pilots using it? Have a good day, Luc "

I have been thinking of purchasing the same stuff and would be interested in finding out more too about this...

"Luc, I have had the CH kit for a while now and love it. I have configured everything I can using the default MS assignments. Where these are not available I use FSUIPC. Don't forget if you assign a button that you remove it from the FS Assignments. The key things are on the throttle quadrant. I have mine configured as follows. Note the assignments for the axis are done in FS and calibrated in FSUIPC. You also need to check the sensitivities in FS. Make sure all axis are max and the null zones are minimum. I use the left axis for Spoiler, the next 4 are fro throttle and the right axis is for flaps."

"<!--QuoteBegin-chevol+Mar 31 2006, 06:32 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chevol @ Mar 31 2006, 06:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi, Back in February Justin announced he just purchased CH controls (yoke + pedals + quadrant). I have been thinking about his post since and I wanted to wait for Father Xmas... too long, I turned to the Easter Bunny instead. Got the stuff from Flightsim in 4 days ! <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I want YOUR Easter Bunny!! <!--emo&;)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What an improvement! now I understand why persons like Lee take the time to build their own cockpit. The only problems are: - I have to learn to fly again. The equipment is so precise that one really needs to be on the controls <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Now you get to fly like a real pilot! <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->- I am not sure about calibration of the Quadrant. questions for Justin (or others), Do you use FSUIPC to calibrate the throttles? in your February post you talk about a help file you found on the web, could you please guide me to it? I notice that my changes to the FS controls set up do not all stay permanent... and FS randomly turns them back to defaults, is there a way to prevent this? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> FSUIPC is highly recommended by myself for calibration and button assignments. Everything is a breeze using FSUIPC and both issues above are fixed by FSUIPC, the registered version is required for these features. <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This equipment is really great are other pilots using it? Have a good day, Luc [right][snapback]8130[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm glad to hear you got this stuff, it is a lot more fun an realistic and will be better once you get it working correctly. Justin"

"Thanks! I have been tuning all afternoon, trying different options through FS and FSUIPC regist. version. I am getting there (slowly). the equipment is fantastic ! cheers, Luc"

"<!--emo&:o-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> My wife complains about the big ol' joystick on the desk,... I mean flight deck. I will never hear the end of it if I get all those controls. <!--emo&:lol:-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> ed mosier 1287"

"<!--QuoteBegin-chevol+Mar 31 2006, 09:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chevol @ Mar 31 2006, 09:37 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks! I have been tuning all afternoon, trying different options through FS and FSUIPC regist. version. I am getting there (slowly). the equipment is fantastic ! cheers, Luc [right][snapback]8148[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Glad to hear it Luc! Here's a tip which if not known could make you pull your hair out: if you have the engine controls on the yoke activated along with the throttle quadrant, make sure the controls on the yoke are all at the extremes of their travel, so either full forward or full backward. If those controls are left in between, you will see twitching in the throttles (and prop control and/or mixture control). That can be very frustrating trying to troubleshoot that issue <!--emo&;)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> The calibration of the throttle quadrant can be a little tricky. In case you haven't got that part figured out yet here's what you do: 1. Assign the axis via the FS menu for Engine 1 Throttle, etc for each engine. 2. go to FSUIPC to the Joystick menu 3. scroll thru to Seperate Throttle Controls, or something like it. 4. for each throttle you see a Set button, click it for each throttle. 5. now you see several more Set buttons for each throttle. Start at Throttle 1. 6. Set the throttle lever to full reverse, click the set button. 7. move the throttle lever to the detent, then pull it back to the edge of the detent on the reverse side (backward edge of the detent) without actually pulling it out of the detent, press the bottom set button under Idle. 8. Do the same for the forward side of the detent and push the top set button under Idle. 9. Push the throttle lever full forward and press the last set button. Repeat the same steps for each throttle lever. If you prefer to use FSUIPC for button assignments: (Russell indicates he uses the FS system for button assignments so it comes down to preference. I haven't had disappearing button assignments since changing everything to FSUIPC except for the view command on the POV hat) Go to the Buttons menu in FSUIPC to set the hardware buttons. Actuate the button you want to set first. Then check ""Select for FS control"" and from the dropdown box you can select what FS function you want that button to perform. Another neat thing is by selecting ""Aircraft Specific?"" you can have a particular button do one thing on RFP and something different on PMDG (for example) without any more intervention from yourself, FSUIPC figures it out when you change airplanes! Justin"

"Justin, Russell Help much appreciated, thanks again! I have been practising Xwind landings in EGPK... I left a couple of runway lights untouched ! I will now follow your tips in FSUIPC for the quadrant. <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->My wife complains about the big ol' joystick on the desk,... I mean flight deck. I will never hear the end of it if I get all those controls.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ed, it left my wife speechless... hard to say what will come out once she resumes speaking <!--emo&:wacko:-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> but the equipment is really easy to clip on and off (to hide it in the garden shed when necessary) I go get some sleep now cheers Luc"

Ahhhh!!!! I don't have a wife and soon I will have the money to by the CH controls....soon.... <!--emo&;)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]<!--endemo-->

"<!--emo&:o-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> after my divorce from my fist wife, It was a really strange feeling, you know, going out and buying something without having to ask permission, bringing it home and not getting into trouble over it.... boy, am i glad those days are over... <!--emo&:P-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> ed mosier 1287"

"Following good tips from Justin (congrats for the 1000h!) and Russell I completed the basic tuning and it works WELL! FSUIPC is also a great help. All is fairly logical but... it takes time and lots of little things can interfere. I am still not 100% clear about using FS or FSUIPC settings. I used FSUIPC for the quadrant and FS for the rest and it seems OK Now my wife says I look like a real pro, I am in heaven <!--emo&:rolleyes:-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> have a good week end, Luc"

"I also have the Yoke, Pedals and Quadrant. I have had them tuned reasonably well now for a while except: I have 2 questions: 1) The ""toe brake"" of each pedal intermitently activates the differential brakeing. (This is when you say No Kidding!) Exept I'm not touching the pedals when it happens. I've watched the range of motion in FSUIPC many times. I have tried several combinations of settings. With the pedal fully deppressed, the ""max"" reading is like 16,300 units. With the pedal fully up, for the ""min"" reading its zero - no wait its -(negative) 16,300 units no wait its zero again, no wait - If I partially depress and hold the pedal, the number is steady in a very small range with very precice control. When I take my foot off the pedal its zero, no wait... Anyway, I'm about to call CH and send them back as deffective unless someone has a bright idea. I have also tried the spiking filter option both on and off. 2) My yoke left button is able to raise and lower the gear - even when NO BUTTONS are assigned. either in FS assignment screens or FSUIPC. I Emailed CH but never got a reply. Any thoughts? David Kenefick Pilot 1381 Make that 3 questions: The row of quadrant switches worked very well as left to right: 1-down Parking brake toggle; 1-up momentary repeated brakes(and PB off) 2-down Eng 1 fuel cuttoff; 2-up Eng-1 Fuel lean 3-down Eng 2 fuel cuttoff; 3-up Eng-2 Fuel lean 4-down Eng 3 fuel cuttoff; 4-up Eng-3 Fuel lean 5-down Eng 4 fuel cuttoff; 5-up Eng-4 Fuel lean 6-down Gear Down; 6-up Gear Up (now you see the redundancy from question #2) This worked well in RFP V2. In fact, combined with the STAB TRIM on the left thumb of the yoke, I had not even looked at the console graphic for months. The new VIP RFP removes the fuel selector interaction. So, my question is, can we fellow CH throttle owners all band together and BEG PLEAD CRY for Ed, Ralph and Chris to reestablish that control? Thanks...."

"David, Question 1. What I would do is partially depress your foot pedals and set that as the min value in FSUIPC. This will give you a small NULL zone. As for question 2. Double check you buttons settings and FSUIPC and in FS. I suspect it is in there somewhere"

"<!--QuoteBegin-jourdair+Apr 2 2006, 10:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jourdair @ Apr 2 2006, 10:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->David, Question 1. What I would do is partially depress your foot pedals and set that as the min value in FSUIPC. This will give you a small NULL zone. As for question 2. Double check you buttons settings and FSUIPC and in FS. I suspect it is in there somewhere [right][snapback]8253[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks for the reply. Question 1, I have set as much as 75% travel as a null zone, in ever increasing amounts. And even with spike filtering, AND the output showing ZERO in FSUIPC, when the pedal ""clicks"" from ""0"" to""-16300"" the brake activates! This of course is registered as a movement of the plane by an INS that is in align mode, as the momentary brake activation triggers the parking brake release. ARRRGG! Question 2, I have tripple checked. I have turned every assignment off in FS, and assigned the switch as landing lights in FSUIPC. The lights come on, but the gear goes down too! Whats more, FSUIPC doesn't support multiple functions on the same button and the FS assignment window will only assign as a toggle, which reverses the up/down state, which ever is current. While the button is definitley UP -up and DN-Down. already ""up"" gear will not decend if up is presssed again. So, as FSUIPC is already doing sothing else, and FS doesn't offer up and Down specific settings, I have no idea where the setting is comming from! David Kenefick Pilot 1381"

"<!--QuoteBegin-LeFick+Apr 4 2006, 01:48 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LeFick @ Apr 4 2006, 01:48 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Thanks for the reply. Question 1, I have set as much as 75% travel as a null zone, in ever increasing amounts. And even with spike filtering, AND the output showing ZERO in FSUIPC, when the pedal ""clicks"" from ""0"" to""-16300"" the brake activates! This of course is registered as a movement of the plane by an INS that is in align mode, as the momentary brake activation triggers the parking brake release. ARRRGG<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have had similar issues with some axis ""twitching"" and after a little research found a solution that worked. All three of my controls where plugged into USB ports on the back of the computer. That worked fine for several months then the twitches shown up. One solution I found in my research is to get a USB hub, one that has it's own power source which is absolutely important. Apparently USB ""reliability"", for the lack of a better term, has a lot to do with the amount of power input to the port. The ports on the computer, or a USB hub which plugs into a USB port on the computer and uses power from the computer, is dependant on computer system power. Try a USB hub that you have to plug into the electrical socket (besides the USB cable going to the computer which is no used for electrical power). The axis on my controls calmed down after that. <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Question 2, I have tripple checked. I have turned every assignment off in FS, and assigned the switch as landing lights in FSUIPC. The lights come on, but the gear goes down too! Whats more, FSUIPC doesn't support multiple functions on the same button and the FS assignment window will only assign as a toggle, which reverses the up/down state, which ever is current. While the button is definitley UP -up and DN-Down. already ""up"" gear will not decend if up is presssed again. So, as FSUIPC is already doing sothing else, and FS doesn't offer up and Down specific settings, I have no idea where the setting is comming from! David Kenefick Pilot 1381 [right][snapback]8295[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Interesting. Do you have the button assigned to a ""key press"" anywhere? Otherwise look in your FS9.cfg file and look in the joystick assignments section to see right from the source if the button is assigned. If the gear field is empty, could a key press be set in the CH software? I can't remember if the software has that feature. I'm just throwing out ideas in my head, I don't know if there is much merit to them but you are probably ready to try anything <!--emo&;)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> Justin"