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Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:35 pm
by Jay Eklund
Can someone show me the way to CP's office and then towards the remedial fuel planning 101 classroom?

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Managed to roll it off onto the highspeed but had to be towed last couple hundred yards to the pad. Friends don't let friends fly without sufficient fuel.

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:04 am
by Brian K
woooowwww :oops:

Good think you didn't loose it a couple of miles before - then you might have made a BA B777 8)

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:47 pm
by Audiohavoc
http://www.topcatsim.com/

I use TOPCAT for reasonably accurate fuel requirement estimation.

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:55 pm
by khelm
Audiohavoc wrote:http://www.topcatsim.com/

I use TOPCAT for reasonably accurate fuel requirement estimation.
Same here, it almost always matches my FMS. Too bad you get the annoying little pop ups when ever you want to do a calculation. And the fact that it STOPS the countdown when you click out of the program erks me. But, oh well. At least its "free" :D

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:05 pm
by rav72
The PMDG manual has very detailed fuel planning methodology and believe me it's not that difficult as it might seem ;) I always do my calculations manually and I verify my results by using the FMC. To get the FMC verification spot on you need to enter en-route winds on the LEGS page (RTA Data). If you need a hand just give us a shout!

Ralf

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:26 pm
by Jay Eklund
This unfortunately was the DF 722W, no topcat for me in this case.

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:58 am
by Cpt747
Bloody hell Jay you were flying on fumes! do you still have a job with us here??? :lol:

I agree with Ralf - the PMDG methodology is brilliant and well-worth taking the time over. It is not difficult at all. I spend around 30 mins. in pre-flight doing route weather checks and making the calculations in conjunction with Active Sky X and FSBuild. I find that there is seldom a big discrepancy between what FSBuild calculates and what I calculate. As a final check I use the FMC and all three calculations are often consistent with the other...of course I take the higher of the calculated values :wink:

Happy flights and greased landings!

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:03 am
by phil747fan
Jay Eklund wrote:This unfortunately was the DF 722W, no topcat for me in this case.

Jay,

i may have somewhere some infos on fuel planning side for the real 727 ... maybe if you drop me an email ill try to send you.

see you

Phil

Re: Sometimes luck helps

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:34 pm
by rav72
Jay Eklund wrote:This unfortunately was the DF 722W, no topcat for me in this case.
VRoute has this bird included in its fuel planning ;)

Ralf