CIVA INS and how to use it

BarryTheAviator · Post by **BarryTheAviator** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:37 am

"Attached is a document explaining the CIVA INS and how to use it with the RFP 747-200 for those who want to know about this clever device. I cannot guarantee the technical accuracy, but it offers a good insight into how it works in principle and how to use it. [EDIT] I have replaced the Word format with PDF format and made one minor change concerning Great Circle Navigation Download civa_ins.pdf (107 Kb)"

mlegein · Post by **mlegein** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:07 pm

Great document! Thanks Barry. Didn't an incorrect programming of the CIVA INS in PANC result in the KAL007 747-200 drifting into Russian airspace over Sakhalin Island and getting shot down? At least that's what the made-for-TV movie was alluding to.

BarryTheAviator · Post by **BarryTheAviator** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:21 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mlegein @ Dec 6 2005, 04:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Great document! Thanks Barry. Didn't an incorrect programming of the CIVA INS in PANC result in the KAL007 747-200 drifting into Russian airspace over Sakhalin Island and getting shot down? At least that's what the made-for-TV movie was alluding to. [right][snapback]6073[/snapback][/right] </div> No - it was an alien spaceship interfering with the avionics [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]"

Post by **nwadc10** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:12 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mlegein @ Dec 6 2005, 04:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Great document! Thanks Barry. Didn't an incorrect programming of the CIVA INS in PANC result in the KAL007 747-200 drifting into Russian airspace over Sakhalin Island and getting shot down? At least that's what the made-for-TV movie was alluding to. [right][snapback]6073[/snapback][/right] </div> What I understand is that KAL was having some problems with their INS's. Whether it was human factors or mechanical problems I'm not certain but how a friend explained it to me it sounded like it was mechanical. There's more to the story though. Several KAL flights diverted because of INS problems costing KAL money. Pressure from KAL management forced pilots to choose between continuing the flight when an INS problem arises....or divert and be fired. The crew in question took option number 1 which benefited no one. Justin"

PS1744 · Post by **PS1744** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:53 pm

"Thanks Barry, [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ninja.gif[/img] Will have a look on it and study all the insterresting things, here using a PDF found on a website with illustrating pictures from the cold cockpit to the final destination. Anyway thanks again [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img] "

chevol · Post by **chevol** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:22 am

That is a good piece of work for a great navigational tool! Thank you Barry

sams · Post by **sams** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:40 am

"Yea, I totally agree! Great information! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] Thanks Barry"

stefltt · Post by **stefltt** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:08 am

Very good work Barry ! It's a good summary of the many PDF files that comes with the CIVA INS. Stéphane

yoni63 · Post by **yoni63** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:19 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryTheAviator @ Dec 6 2005, 11:21 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>No - it was an alien spaceship interfering with the avionics [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [right][snapback]6074[/snapback][/right] </div> I heard it was a gremlin standing on the wing lifing the alierons with his super gremlin strength!!!! and William Shatner had a nervous breakdown over it!!! LOL"

jlpareja · Post by **jlpareja** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:31 pm

"Hi everybody In the forum move the attachment pdf was lost. I can't find the file and I asked myself if anyone have it, and can post it. It would be great. I'm having some align problems, the counter is down until 65 but it stops there. I have waited for a long time, but... Thanks in advance"

Post by **nwadc10** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:59 pm

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"jlpareja" wrote:Hi everybody In the forum move the attachment pdf was lost. I can't find the file and I asked myself if anyone have it, and can post it. It would be great. I'm having some align problems, the counter is down until 65 but it stops there. I have waited for a long time, but... Thanks in advance

I had come across that before and if I remember correctly I had to reinstall the INS to get it to work. I'm guessing that you are pretty well versed in CIVA INS useage so you have probably got the present position entered while in standby mode prior to beginning the alignment. If not...do that

Justin"

rossspargo · Post by **rossspargo** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:26 pm

"Does anybody have the link/file that is the auto-installer for the CIVA INS for the 742? Thanks, Ross S"

rossspargo · Post by **rossspargo** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:33 pm

"YAY!!!

I found the CIVA INS .pfd file! If anyone still wants it, let me know and ill upload it, if i can? Ross S"

PAC1544 · Post by **PAC1544** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:11 pm

What happened to the attached file? I fly with the CIVA INS and always like reading more about it.

Post by **nwadc10** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 6:05 pm

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"rossspargo" wrote:YAY!!! I found the CIVA INS .pfd file! If anyone still wants it, let me know and ill upload it, if i can? Ross S

Ross, Send it to me and I'll upload it and repost it here. Justin"