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"Good afternoon everyone Has anyone successfully made this trip? Even on 50000 payload, I still calculate needing 400,000+ lbs of fuel required. I checked my flightplan againat the listed one on the website, and mine was slightly shorter. I thought I would give it a go for fun, and ended up with winds giving me an extra 400NM of distance. I only got half way across Russia before Bingo fuel. Also (and I will post this on the RFP site). What is the actual zero fuel weight, no cargo, for the Polar Air. What is the MTOW and MLAW for this aircraft. It seems whereever I look I get different figures. Thanx in advance Neville Pilot 1220"
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<span style='color:blue'>Kind regards
Neville van Eerten (1220)
Australia/Asia NZCH</span>
Neville van Eerten (1220)
Australia/Asia NZCH</span>
"<!--QuoteBegin-nevillevaneerten+May 3 2005, 01:39 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nevillevaneerten @ May 3 2005, 01:39 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Good afternoon everyone Has anyone successfully made this trip? Even on 50000 payload, I still calculate needing 400,000+ lbs of fuel required. I checked my flightplan againat the listed one on the website, and mine was slightly shorter. I thought I would give it a go for fun, and ended up with winds giving me an extra 400NM of distance. I only got half way across Russia before Bingo fuel. Also (and I will post this on the RFP site). What is the actual zero fuel weight, no cargo, for the Polar Air. What is the MTOW and MLAW for this aircraft. It seems whereever I look I get different figures. Thanx in advance Neville Pilot 1220 [right][snapback]3482[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Try flying slower. I fly my long flights at M.80 which increases the range considerably. Since there is no field to enter your cruise speed on the fuel planner, I think it assumes you will fly at M.84 at all times so it's inaccurate for flights at M.80. KLAX/VABB may just simply be out of range of the aircraft even when flying slower which would require a planned fuel stop along the way. ZFW of the freighter is 342,000 and I believe MTOW/MLAW remain the same as the passenger version. Justin"
Justin Erickson, Captain #1040
Chief Executive Officer
Globe Cargo PIREP (GCP) Developer
ceo-at-globecargova.org
Vatsim ID: 871725
Chief Executive Officer
Globe Cargo PIREP (GCP) Developer
ceo-at-globecargova.org
Vatsim ID: 871725
"Weights vary with different configurations but the Polar & Atlas weights are as below (unless I am corrected !) <!--emo&^_^-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> ZFW = 342,000 lbs Max Taxi Weight = 836,000 lbs Max Take off = 833,000 lbs Max (standard) landing weight = 630,000 lbs (overweight in emergencies only) On long flights that require more fuel than you can load require you to plan your own fuelling stop en-route."
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"<!--QuoteBegin-BarryTheAviator+May 3 2005, 08:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryTheAviator @ May 3 2005, 08:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Weights vary with different configurations but the Polar & Atlas weights are as below (unless I am corrected !) <!--emo&^_^-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> ZFW = 342,000 lbs Max Taxi Weight = 836,000 lbs Max Take off = 833,000 lbs Max (standard) landing weight = 630,000 lbs (overweight in emergencies only) On long flights that require more fuel than you can load require you to plan your own fuelling stop en-route. [right][snapback]3488[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Never got to dsay thank you for your assistance, now got it sussed and enjoying finding interesting airports to do a fuel stop at"
<span style='color:blue'>Kind regards
Neville van Eerten (1220)
Australia/Asia NZCH</span>
Neville van Eerten (1220)
Australia/Asia NZCH</span>
"<!--QuoteBegin-big_al+Jul 10 2005, 09:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big_al @ Jul 10 2005, 09:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Is there any way to change the fuel planner to go by those weights? I always get overweight warnings when planning my trip! [right][snapback]4229[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> The fuel planner was designed around our original configuration of JT9D-7F engines with a GTOW of 775,000 pounds. It can not be changed. Atlas and Polar use the larger engines in real life supporting larger loads but RFP still only supports the numbers shown in the manual."