Are you using CIVA INS?

snipe · Post by **snipe** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:21 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(leelg @ Nov 13 2005, 05:43 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I use the CIVA INS exclusively for navigation on long flights. The only exception is when I can navigate entirely with VOR stations but I still use the CIVA for ground speed (important when using FS FligthKeeper). I use the CIVA in conjunction with a touchscreen to improve realism which makes a huge difference. Here is a photo show. I also configure a couple of GoFlight pushbuttons to simulate the right mouse clicks required to set up a DME update. That works great as well. I am a huge fan of the CIVA INS. Lee [right][snapback]5679[/snapback][/right] </div> Lee, that is a fantastic setup dude! I'm jealous [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] . It's good to hear that many of our pilots are opting for the most realistic option for navigationg the whale accross the Globe. Thanks everyone for your replies, it was good to hear from all of you [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] ."

yoni63 · Post by **yoni63** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:40 am

"Well, as I posted on another entry. I am just now really wanting to learn this thing and get it down good. I think my biggest issue is learning to input coordinates properly. I was trying the tutorial and one of my coordinates was just not imputing right. I couldn't use the coordinates on the tutorial cuz they showed me to be in the water! LOL, so anyhow, I hit shift Z and was trying to enter those from one of the heavy gates at KBOS. Anyhow, anyone with another tutorial on entering coordinates can chime in anytime, pleeeeeeease! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]"

Brogs · Post by **Brogs** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:20 am

"Hi Bryan Have a look at the ittv Video/dvd of a Virgin 742 flight from London to Miami,the Captain takes you through programming the INS System,it covers most if not all aspects of Flying the 742, Safe landings Mike"

Post by **nwadc10** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:38 am

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yoni63 @ Nov 22 2005, 07:40 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> I hit shift Z and was trying to enter those from one of the heavy gates at KBOS. Anyhow, anyone with another tutorial on entering coordinates can chime in anytime, pleeeeeeease! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] [right][snapback]5794[/snapback][/right] </div> The coordinates used by FS are one digit more accurate than the INS uses. End result: you need to round off the last digit FS gives you for the coordinates. For example, if FS says you are at N25 55.67, W102 34.22 you would enter into the INS N25 55.7 (.67 rounded up to .7), W102 34.2 (.22 rounded down to .2). You can leave any preceding zeros off your INS entry. For example, the the latitude is N04 23.5 simple enter it as N4 23.5. This isn't really a bid deal because the INS won't enter a preceding zero even if you told it to. As for a tutorial, I learned just fine from the INS's documentation. I printed the document and keep it with my RFP checklists and takeoff/landing numbers. Start out with Normal Procedures and it will walk you through the setup of the INS. It's a good idea to also print the error codes so you have that handy when flying because that document tells you what to do when the INS spits an error at you. Justin"

yoni63 · Post by **yoni63** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:52 pm

"Great to hear that Justin, I appreciate it much. As for the power situation, I know it has a built in simulated ground power. I have been cranking up my APU as normal and then running the INS set up. Is that a problem as I notice half way through my set up I see the battery lights come on. I think that is all I am wondering about. Hopefully [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]"

yoni63 · Post by **yoni63** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:53 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brogs @ Nov 22 2005, 10:20 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hi Bryan Have a look at the ittv Video/dvd of a Virgin 742 flight from London to Miami,the Captain takes you through programming the INS System,it covers most if not all aspects of Flying the 742, Safe landings Mike [right][snapback]5796[/snapback][/right] </div> Where can I find that video at? Sounds interesting."

Post by **nwadc10** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:06 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yoni63 @ Nov 22 2005, 04:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Great to hear that Justin, I appreciate it much. As for the power situation, I know it has a built in simulated ground power. I have been cranking up my APU as normal and then running the INS set up. Is that a problem as I notice half way through my set up I see the battery lights come on. I think that is all I am wondering about. Hopefully [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] [right][snapback]5799[/snapback][/right] </div> This is how I start up RFP/CIVA. After getting and signing my dispatch release I arrive at the airplane. The first thing I do is turn on the battery and request ground power. When ground power is available I turn it on and set the INS's to standby, enter present position, then select align. Go through the rest of the RFP setup procedure to include entering INS waypoints. 10 minutes before scheduled departure I start the APU. I do this to save fuel. When the APU RPM is 100% I transfer power from the GPU to the APU and cancel the ground power request. Anyways, a bit off topic but you mentioned ground power and the APU [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] The BATT light on the INS CDU's will illuminate for several seconds when the alignment process reaches level 8. This is normal and is an internal test of the INS. If the light illuminates any other time it's because external power (external of the INS, not the airplane necessarily) is not reaching the INS is the units are running off an internal battery which each INS unit has. I'm not sure how long the INS will run off the internal battery but I wouldn't want to find out in flight [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] There are of course three ways to apply power to the INS, besides the internal battery:

APU</li>
GPU</li>
Engine generators</li>

Make sure at least one of these are providing the aircraft's main electrical bus with power and you shouldn't have any trouble getting the INS to use that power. There may be random failures programmed into the INS which break the connection between the INS unit and the main bus but that would affect an individual INS unit, not all three (unless you are having a really bad day and all 3 INS's randomly generate this failure at the same time [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img] ) This was much more information than you asked for...but a good pilot is always learning. In short, the temporarily illuminated BATT light is normal when the alignment process passes through level 8. Justin "

yoni63 · Post by **yoni63** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:26 pm

"Hey, you cannot give me too much information and you do not know how much I appreciate it sitting here in this virtual cockpit with no co pilot to help trouble shoot! So just inform away! LOL Many thanks to you Justin as well as all others that pitch in to help with issues I come across. I do not take any of it for granted in anyway. Hope everyone has a great thanksgiving. I think I might just fly all day long!!!! LOL"

Brogs · Post by **Brogs** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:21 am

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yoni63 @ Nov 22 2005, 10:53 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Where can I find that video at? Sounds interesting. [right][snapback]5800[/snapback][/right] </div> Bryan Here,s the Website Mike [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] <a href='http://www.itvv.com/virb747200.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.itvv.com/virb747200.asp</a> "