Common Polar Routes

Craig Applegate 1207 · Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:15 am

Here are some common Flt Plan routes we fly at Polar KORD DCT BAE J68 GEP J36 FAR DCT MOT J483 VLN J475 YWV NCA11 YESKA DCT NODLE R220 NODAN R217 GTC V30 JEC G585 BULLS BULLS1S RKSI VHHH OCEAN2A OCEAN V3 ENVAR M750 PILOX DCT APU B576 NUMDA NUMDA1S RKSI RKSI MALPA1B MALPA Y51 DADGA B576 APU A1 ELATO ELATO1A VHHH KLAX GMN4 EHF J65 SAC DCT FOT DCT BOXER B453 KATCH B327 NULUK R220 NODAN DCT MQE V34 GTC V30 JEC G585 BULLS BULLS1S RKSI (NON PACOT ROUTE) RKSI SEL1B SEL G597 KARBU DCT KAE G597 LANAT Y51 CVC OTR13 SEALS DCT 36N150E DCT 40N160E DCT 45N170E DCT 46N180E DCT 46N170W DCT 45N160W DCT 44N150W DCT 42N140W DCT 40N130W DCT DACEM DCT PAINT DCT PIRAT DCT AVE SADDE6 KLAX (PACOT TRAC 3) RJAA NRE8R CHINO Y16 SAPRA G585 BULLS BULLS1S RKSI RKSI SEL1B SEL G597 VENUS VENUSN RJAA RJAA CHOSH2 GUPPY OTR8 KAGIS A590 AMOTT DCT YESKA NCA13 YQD DCT VBI J538 DLL DCT MSN DCT JVL JVL4 KORD (NON PACOT ROUTE) RJAA CHOSH2 GUPPY OTR8 KAGIS OTR11 ABETS OTR9 ETRON DCT 43N160E DCT 47N170E DCT 49N180E DCT 50N170W DCT 50N160W DCT 49N150W DCT 49N140W DCT PRETY DCT TAMRU DCT SEFIX TRK13 TOU DCT GEG J136 BIL J16 MCW JVL4 KORD (PACOT TRAC 1) RKSI OSN1B OSN B576 CJU DCT NIRAT A593 DUMET DUMET21A ZSPD ZSPD LAMEN12D LAMEN A593 FU V17 TAE V37 KEC A1 MJE A590 AMOTT DCT PANC UAAA DESOK1G DESOK B156 GOMAL G155 SARIN A368 FKG B215 YBL A596 KM DCT HUR DCT VYK A593 VMB VMB11A ZSPD ZSPD PIKAS12D PIKAS G330 PIMOL A593 VYK DCT HUR DCT KM A596 YBL B215 FKG A368 SARIN G155 GOMAL B156 DESOK DESOK1A UAAA RKSI SEL1A SEL G597 JEC V30 KMC DCT GOC OTR4 PABBA A590 AMOTT DCT PANC ETAR MAPIG1E NEKOM Z12 SULUS UZ650 LITKU UL620 NARKA UB499 TOMET UL624 ADINA UL851 KUGOS UT33 CRM UT34 SRT UR21 KABAN R784 NOLDO UP975 SIDAD DCT DESLU ALVIX2B OKBK UAAA OTARI1G OTARI B142 ARBOL G13 KZO A356 ABDUN G96 BODSI G161 GASBI UG161 BEKIR UR315 ADEKI UN644 LAGAS UG261 TBN UL851 NEPOT UL602 HMM T281 NORKU NORKU1A EHAM EGPK NGY N615 DCS UN615 BARTN UL975 DESIG UL603 ESATI UL984 SULUS UZ650 LITKU UL620 NARKA UB499 REBLA UL601 SELVI UW75 ADA LTAG ORD..GUIDO.J73.SZW.J43.PIE.CYY3.MIA ORD..EON..DNV..VHP.J24.FLM..SPA.J47.CAE.J47.CHS ATL..NOONE.J89.KURTZ..VHP..OKK.OKK1.ORD MIA..HEDLY.J81.CHESN.SINCA3.ATL LTAG DCT ADA UW74 DYB UW73 TAMER UG8 ALRAM G208 UMH UL124 ZAJ UL125 ZDN G452 TIGER L333 JJP B209 JJS G450 CEA L507 BGO G473 UBL A1 DAN P901 IDOSI IDOSI1B VHHH LTAG DCT ADA UW74 GAZ UW701 ERZ UB374 INDUR UG161 GASBI G161 MASAV G155 ABDUN A356 NT B142 OTARI OTARI2A UAAA KMIA DCT EONNS A509 URSUS UL795 PSN UW1 CPN DCT SBKP SBKP SCB1 SCB UA310 GAVEL UA432 CBA UA307 DOZ UA306 UMKAL NAVAR4 SCEL SCEL ESLAR3 VTN UL780 TRU UG436 ATENO UW8 ITATA UM538 TBG UG435 GCM UG448 TADPO G448 MTH DVALL1 KMIA (VOLCANO AVOIDANCE ROUTE) SCEL ESLAR3 VTN UL780 URSUS FOWEE5 KMIA (USUAL ROUTE) EHAM DCT BERGI UL602 NALAX UL46 LIBSO UL975 GOLES UY70 POL UN601 MARGO TRN1D EGPK

hawkeyeted · Post by **hawkeyeted** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:38 am

"Awesome Craig! Thanks! I've tracked a lot of these routes with FlightAware.com, as well as listening to them on LiveATC.net."

snipe · Post by **snipe** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:01 am

This is fantastic!! Thanks so much Craig [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] !

vollmey · Post by **vollmey** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:19 am

"Thanks Craig, much appreciated. Got a question about PANC. I'm like Ted and use Flightaware to watch flights sometimes. The other night I was looking at flightplans out of PANC and there where two Polar flights one to VHHH and the other to RKSI. I started messing around the Polar website and it looks like that they are hiring postions up in Anchorage. Is Polar going to start using PANC more frequently maybe as a stop point. Just curious!! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]"

Bodo Mueller · Post by **Bodo Mueller** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:09 pm

"Hi, what does (NON PACOT ROUTE) mean? "

hawkeyeted · Post by **hawkeyeted** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:01 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodo Mueller @ Mar 29 2006, 08:09 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hi, what does (NON PACOT ROUTE) mean? [right][snapback]8095[/snapback][/right] </div> PACOT is the Pacific equivalent of the NATS system. If they're travelling on a non-PACOT route, then it is an established route not a Flex route."

jourdair · Post by **jourdair** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:36 pm

Thanks Craig. That's great. DO you have a route for ZSPD - EHAM?

Craig Applegate 1207 · Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:24 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jourdair @ Mar 29 2006, 02:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Craig. That's great. DO you have a route for ZSPD - EHAM? [right][snapback]8100[/snapback][/right] </div> Hi Russell, The route from PVG-AMS stops in ALA/UAAA for fuel and due to overfly permits for china it goes through Alamty. The routes are posted. Craig"

jourdair · Post by **jourdair** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:41 pm

Thanks Craig. It is really appreciated. I've pinned this topic as it will be excellent reference.

Christian Alton · Post by **Christian Alton** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:12 am

"That pretty cool Craig, I got a radio in my truck so when i go down to the airport(PANC) i can listen to the Polar and Atlas flights that depart from here."

Avwriter · Post by **Avwriter** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:28 am

"Chris, I understand that specific cargo loads on specific flights consitute a company secret and could not be listed here. However it would be handy if we could get a general ballpark guide to relative cargo load levels on different routes. This could be as simple as listing them as Light, Medium, or Heavy. Just enough to give us a rough idea of what kinds of loads are typicall on different routes/legs. Of course, I guess that it could be the case that there is no typical load, and that one week the route from KORD to RKSI might be light and on another it might be so heavy that a stop in PANC would be required. If that is the case, then we may as well go on guessing randomly as we already do. In any case, I am just curious. Andrew"

Craig Applegate 1207 · Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:59 pm

"Andrew, There is no secret to payloads. The payloads vary from flight to flight. On average if you want guidelines you can plan as follows. Flights into and out of South America - Max Payload The US to Far East - 40-80 tons. Lax is less usually about 20 tons. The Far East into US - Max Payload 90-110 tons Far East to Far East - 6o-90 tons The US to Europe and back - 80 Tons These are just ballpark figures. Payload varies due to winds and routings. Craig"

Avwriter · Post by **Avwriter** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:30 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Craig Applegate 1207 @ Apr 27 2006, 05:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Andrew, There is no secret to payloads. The payloads vary from flight to flight. On average if you want guidelines you can plan as follows. Flights into and out of South America - Max Payload The US to Far East - 40-80 tons. Lax is less usually about 20 tons. The Far East into US - Max Payload 90-110 tons Far East to Far East - 6o-90 tons The US to Europe and back - 80 Tons These are just ballpark figures. Payload varies due to winds and routings. Craig [right][snapback]8652[/snapback][/right] </div> Thanks Craig. Just to be clear, which kind of tons are we talking about here? Thanks again, Andrew"

Craig Applegate 1207 · Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:07 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Avwriter @ Apr 27 2006, 06:30 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks Craig. Just to be clear, which kind of tons are we talking about here? Thanks again, Andrew [right][snapback]8654[/snapback][/right] </div> We plan in kilos so we figure 80 tons= 80000 kilograms for our purposes"

Avwriter · Post by **Avwriter** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:35 pm

"<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Craig Applegate 1207 @ Apr 27 2006, 08:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>We plan in kilos so we figure 80 tons= 80000 kilograms for our purposes [right][snapback]8655[/snapback][/right] </div> Does the route from EHAM to VHHH (PO610) also stop in Almaty like the one to ZSPD, or does it go direct or through a different stop point? Andrew"