Common Polar Routes

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John Khan
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Post by John Khan »

"Hi Craig First, many thanks for the routes. Questions:- I'm doing EGLL-KLAS (with the fancy cars!!) probably this weekend, and have made a route:- DCT WOBUN UL10 MORAG UP6 MIMKU (THEN ALL DCT) 5816N 6024N 6236N PORSU 6350N FEDDY (THEN) N532E HML J107 MLF DCT. Does this sound realistic? There don't seem to be any NATS that go that far north. Would Atlas/Polar carry the extra freight and have a fuel stop on the way, or, would it be more economical to carry less freight to enable them to fly direct? I'm going to suggest a separate forum heading for routes. Regards John"
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Post by Craig Applegate 1207 »

"<!--QuoteBegin-John Khan+May 15 2006, 09:59 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(John Khan @ May 15 2006, 09:59 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Craig First, many thanks for the routes. Questions:- I'm doing EGLL-KLAS (with the fancy cars!!)  probably this weekend, and have made a route:- DCT WOBUN UL10 MORAG UP6 MIMKU (THEN ALL DCT) 5816N 6024N 6236N PORSU 6350N FEDDY (THEN) N532E HML J107 MLF DCT. Does this sound realistic? There don't seem to be any NATS that go that far north. Would Atlas/Polar carry the extra freight and have a fuel stop on the way, or, would it be more economical to carry less freight to enable them to fly direct? I'm going to suggest a separate forum heading for routes. Regards John [right][snapback]8840[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> John, That is pretty close to what we would fly. I just did a flt plan and it was just a tad more north than yours. You have a good route there and in a classic max playload would be about 70000 kilos. We try to not do a tech stop for fuel unless we have to for payload. We might bump cargo to a later flight if that is more benificial and cheaper than stopping for fuel. Craig"
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Post by John Khan »

"Thanks Craig I'm only carrying the fancy cars by the look of it, so only 44000lbs. Looks like a nice high cruise. <!--emo&:)-->[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]<!--endemo--> Cheers John"
yoni63

Post by yoni63 »

Anyone have a route to post for ORD to EGPK? Just curious :?:
mvm

Post by mvm »

how about this one using the current (YESTERDAYS) Nat track KORD ELX ECK J553 YAY TRAKV NURSI BLACA TRN1C EGPK TRAKV breaks down as these waypoints YAY HECKK 5350N 5440N 5530N 5520N RESNO NIBOG NURSI
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Post by jlpareja »

"Try this one: KUBBS J547 PMM J94 HASTE J547 DEWIT J94 ECK J546 YOW J553 YMX J568 YQB J560 YRI J568 YGP J572 YJT J581 YQX NATV MALOT UN545 MAC UW701 GOW UN590 MARGO See that this route is valid for today, because flies over NAT Track Victor (Atlantic Routes). You know that this active NATs changes everyday. But for simulation, I think this is enough. NAT V: KOBEV 50N050W 53N040W 54N030W 53N020W MALOT"
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Post by mlegein »

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"yoni63" wrote:Anyone have a route to post for ORD to EGPK? Just curious :?:
Go on the RouteFinder website at http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/ and make sure to enable NATs. It generated the following route for today: KORD DCT KUBBS J547 PMM J94 HASTE J547 DEWIT J94 ECK J546 YOW J553 YMX J568 YQB J560 YRI J568 YGP J572 YJT J581 YQX NATV MALOT UN545 MAC UW701 GOW UN590 MARGO STAR EGPK The flightlog lists the waypoints associated with track V: KOBEV 50N050W 53N040W 54N030W 53N020W The tracks change daily so you'll probably get a different route on another day."
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yoni63

Post by yoni63 »

"Ok guys, thanks for the input, those look good!"
PAC1544

Post by PAC1544 »

"I used routefinder the other day. I find sometimes I want to find everything on a chart to double check it. When I punch waypoints into the INS, I don't want them to be 9 miles apart. That happens sometimes, but seems more common in RouteFinder. Mostly now I use FSBuild. Also I am now making my first waypoint the first waypoint AFTER the DP so I don't eat up my 9 slots early on with the DP. Plus I am usually being vectored to a Waypoint by ATC anyway, so it seems like a waste of time to program a DP into the INS. Any thoughts? Also, could use a route for KATL-EHAM if there is one :)"
Mike Schmitt

Post by Mike Schmitt »

"Two questions First trying to get a good route to Shanghi ZSPD and routefinder has no clue what ZSPD is. Anyone know a good route, I usually can find them pretty good on my own but I thought I would throw this out there Anchorage to Shanghi (PANC - ZSPD) Second is there an official site or publication I can look that would have approved routing out there? Or maybe a better question, how do the dispatchers find these routes?"
yoni63

Post by yoni63 »

"Mike, try this site. http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/ This site is called routefinder, and I entered your two airports and came up with a route."
rossspargo

Post by rossspargo »

"Mike, for PANC - ZSPD I get the following route with RouteFinder: PANC DCT NODLE R220 NEONN G349 MARCC G583 MVE V8 AWE V7 CHE Y12 HWE Y14 JEC V30 DGC V28 FU A593 AKARA STAR ZSPD - Averaging out at about 3900NM Hope this helps 8) I took a quick trip yesterday on the 744 from EGLL - KJFK. RF said it could find JFK, I looked carefully and noticed that I entered KFJK :x So... I guess you may have accidentally entered something else like i did! :wink: Ross S"
hell404

Post by hell404 »

"Mike, My two cents from a real life Fedex Flight Plan: PANC-ZSPD NODLE R220 NICHO R220 NATES R220 NODAN R217 GTC V30 DGC V28 FU A593 POTET A593 LAMEN"
trechan

Re: Common Polar Routes

Post by trechan »

Is it possible to get it on a txt file with the routes seperated in a catalog order? Also maybe a possibility of having it as a sticky?
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Re: Common Polar Routes

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Go into the Download section and in there you will find all the routes.
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